[Komunitikini] BN vs Pakatan showdown at Serdang carnival
沙登小辣椒张念群开炮:那马华又在马六甲猪农事件上做了什么??民联也许太会宣传,所以不必花七千万来聘请APCO做形象打造!(Picture and caption courtesy of Neow Ti Hooi and Fanny Chew)
The Serdang Community Carnival ended up being a tussle where Pakatan Rakyat and Barisan National both promised to deliver a better future for the rakyat. While Pakatan chose to abolish racial-centric policies, BN is betting on its National Economic Model due to be announced in June.In the forum themed ‘BN vs PR: Who is the future of rakyat?’, Serdang MP Teo Nie Ching said Pakatan’s ultimate mission is to implement policies based on needs, not on race. The administration will allocate funds into the hands of needy, in the spirit of “Malaysian Malaysia”.
“Secondly, we want to construct a clean government. It is through a series of cost-cutting and efficient policies, we are able to return the money back to people, for instance free water,” she said.
BN, represented by Labis MP Chua Tee Yong (Chua Soi Lek’s son) and youth wing deputy secretary Low Chew June, however criticised Pakatan’s policies as being short-sighted and populist.
“Their results are meant for the short-term. BN of course can be like them, giving out Petronas’s revenues to delight the public. But as a responsible administration, we know it can’t last long,” Chua said.
He claimed BN has outlined a clear direction of the nation’s future under the upcoming New Economic Model (NEM) and Government Transformation Program.
“Under the NEM, there is no 30 percentBumiputra equity quota anymore. We will allocate funds to every households with monthly income less than RM1500, which constitutes 40 percent of the populations,”
“We also gearing up to turn Malaysia into a high-income country.” he said.

The forum featured Ean Yong (pic, left), Teo Nie Ching, chairlady Xiao Hui, Chua and Low.
Some 400 people attended the current issues forum held in Serdang Community Hall last night despite a drizzle. NTV7’s Lee Xiao Hui chaired the event and a guest panel formed by Josh Hong, Gu Chian Peow and Tang Ah Chai commented on both sides’ statements.
The Pakatan team, represented by Seri Kembangan assemblyman Ean Yong Hian Wah and Serdang MP Teo Nie Ching had a heated debate with BN team on the subjects of Chinese schools and pig farms.
“When Anwar Ibrahim was the Education Minister in 1987, he approved a notice that stated if a school reserve land is not titled for Chinese schools, it will automatically belong to national schools. That’s why we have a problem with Chinese schools now,” BN’s Chua said.
Teo however disagrees with him, said many included Najib and Hishamudin had become Education Minister after Anwar, but none of them ever addressed this issue.
“If they don’t agree with the provision, why didn’t they amend it? Do you want to wait until the next general election, when Pakatan takes over the federal administration, and let Anwar amend that?” she asked.
Ean Yong also said the Selangor state administration has regularised annual RM4 million funds for the state’s Chinese primary schools and RM2 million for Chinese independent high schools, although education is not exactly a power of state.
“However we would like to know why only 3.6 percent of the total education budget in Ninth Malaysia Plan is appropriated to chinese school by the central government?” he asked.
Regarding the pig farm issue, BN’s Low Chew June accused Pakatan as only putting a charade in Kedah when its DAP assemblyman was urged to quit last year, while Pakatan mocked MCA members of not doing anything in the Melaka pig-rearing crisis.
“At least our members dare to quit, did MCA ever do the same?” Teo asked.
“We just didn’t sensationalise the issue. In the Melaka issue, people (Opposition) ranted and raved, but in the end who solved the problem? It still came back us,” Low said.
He said there are still many people with conscience in BN spearheading the government transformation now.
Meanwhile, the commentary panel advised BN to make their proposal a reality, since the public has witnessed suggestions such as the IPCMC in Royal Police Commission’s thick proposal eventually dropped. Besides, the higher income promised in NEM does not necessarily guarantee a safer, fairer and more democratic country.
For Pakatan, the panel suggested they produce a future blueprint with clear policies and KPI to be shown to the public.

Commentary panel formed by Gu, Tang and Hong.
The forum ended at 10.30pm.
(Photo credit to Aw Yong Chin Hoe)
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1樓搶頭香
The important point for PR govt was their return of
savings to the people of Selangor and this was not a
populist measure. Within 2 years of ruling the state
PR had savings in their state coffers and as a
people-oriented and caring govt. this is a right
thing to do.
Yes, BN can do the same but did they after having
ruled Selangor for 52 years ? Why use Petronas money
suggested or was it because the Selangor BN govt
then had siphoned dry the state ?
Selangor PR use the state's own savings for the
benefit of the people.
MCA had been in the BN for 52 years and why didn't
they objected to Anwar's proposal then ? MCA now
admitted indirectly that they have no say in the
coalition as UMNO is the big brother !
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2樓頸推
What a shame MCA ! " There are many people with
conscience spearheading the government
transforrmation " But was MCA people included ? Was
MCA views considered important to be included in the
programme ?
What did MCA mean by not sensationalising the issue ?
Just the same talk like Ong Ka Ting but no outcome
because UMNO did not consider MCA as equal. Simple
as that.
What is MCA view now that the PKFZ issue is suddenly
dropped dead in its track after Ong Tee Keat was
defeated in the Presidential elections ? No further
action and only small " fry " civil servants
implicated.
Wow ! if the BN govt can allow small fry civil
servants to siphon the countrys money, I wonder how
much is enough for them to do so !
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3樓坐沙發
When I pay my tax, I expect it to be spent
reasonably to keep the country running and I don't
expect it to be returned. When I use some water, I
will pay for the cost and reasonable profit to keep
someone motivated to run the business.
On the other hand, they promised 30% bumiputra
equity 40 years ago but it didn't come true, now
they promise to double national income which I
don't expect it to come true either.
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福樓
wanna double up or triple up per capita income , peg ringgit @
RM1 = USD 2 , EURO 2 , Pound 2
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專業的5樓
A clean government which through a series of
cost-cutting and efficient policies, able to
return the money back to people, is good
but Free water just manage help poor people a
few % only . And rich people receive free
water , are looking for prestige , not welfare .
Why not free buses trip ? If cost and budget is
a matter ( first week free , second week
charge , then third week free again )
Saudi Arabia , example Al Balad have free water
machine to drink for public , although it is a
tourist area . In Malacca , there is one Malay
shop give free drink when lunch at her stall ,
which different compared other restaurant lunch
set ( include drink ).
We also not so confident " how to allocate funds
to every households with monthly income less
than RM1500 in this (NEM) "
when The Department of Statistics , Malaysia
conduct the fifth Population and Housing Census
Malaysia in 2010 in rich people area only .
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6樓
If you just need 10 cubic meters per month and
given 20 free, will you just use 10 or 19.9999?
There can never be excess money if you know how
to invest for the future. If there really is,
then cut the tax; which will further stimulate
economic activities and hence create more job
opportunities thus further eradicate poverties.
But the worst of all is, it instills free lunch
mentality among the people. Great leaders inspire
people to work for want they want; popularity
seekers rob from the rich and give to the poor,
which makes the poor even poorer.
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7樓
张念群,你几时才肯道歉,我们在你道歉。。。。
道歉。。。道歉。。。道歉。。。
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8樓
张念群,就算华小一间都不能建,民联在乌鲁雪兰莪补选也肯定是输定了
的,哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈。马华只需要渗透所有柔佛州的华小董事
部,然后花5年的时间在柔佛州增建一间华小,国阵注定在柔佛州万年执
政,你吹咩??? 你吹咩??? 你吹咩???
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9樓
This is what we say earlier while PR have
chances , it also have possibility to lose in
election due to wish-for-better-life voters .
Consider 64000 voters and turnout 75% means
reject BN doesn't mean people will vote PR .
PR also close file GST issue so quickly ( like
someone say GST should implement regardless BN
or PR ) , Green Action - Saturday , no plastic
bag day campaign to cut state's solid waste
disposal bill but to date don't
even assessment rate rebate for poor people ,
What is the relation M'sia poor people problem
with Israel ?
Unemployment and single prefer stay home , Free
bus is bad idea ( when paid bus also difficult
to get ) Some people say no to " free " but they
use free Wi-Fi at Starbuck
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10樓
In Malaysia , sales of vechiles more than
100,000 units per year .
Consider good news by people like economy ( tax
receive by Govt ) but more traffic jam , petrol
price will increase soon ( as subsidies if fixed
but volume of car increase ) . While in Taipei ,
half of its parking near LRT is for bcycles
( just imaging u can bring in bycles inside the
train compared our KTM train ) while in Hong
Kong , first batch of electric vehicle (EV) 21
charging stations in car parks has began in
2009 , and people in HK already start using
Electric Car ( No To Petrol )
All the elec plug & drive charges are FREE until
Dec 2010 while waiver of the elec car tax EXTEND
TO 2014 . Over 90% of the daily journeys in Hong
Kong are on public transport ( Just imagine we
only wish ( very difficult ) to achieve 60% in
2020 )
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11樓
Where is the economic development , BN ask ? So
what Penang going to do with its surplus budget
of 79million ? If you save 79 million not for
development , later go back to develeopment ,
isn't wasting time ? Why not use it to pay staff
salary in advance eg May and June 2010 , since
it finally still has to paid .
Melaka Sentral Bus RM 61 mil sell to Melaka
Historic City Council ( MBMB ) for RM 78 mil .
Bus services still so poor and bus fair is still
expensive . Want to build something like KL
Sentral ( own by MRCB Bhd ) , need at least RM 1
billion , but still no bus to Hulu Selangor .
Mostly bus to One Utama . Sometimes , we ask
successful development is actually done by
government or private company when we compared
IGB Corp Bhd own Mid valley megamall and Sunway
City Berhad own Sunway Pyramid Shopping Mall
compared with RM12.5 bil PKFZ . After all ,
people vote for PR is for development ( more bus
sentral ) or welfare / green ( better bus
services / lower assessment rate ) ?
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12樓
surplus is being saved for a rainy day.
if u use it to pay salary in advance to workers , they will use
it all before hand & how are workers going to survive for the
next 2 months ?
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13樓
"In the Melaka issue, people (Opposition) ranted
and raved, but in the end who solved the
problem? It still came back us,” Low said.
- u r the state gomen, so govern!
“Their results are meant for the short-term. BN
of course can be like them, giving out
Petronas’s revenues to delight the public. But
as a responsible administration, we know it
can’t last long,” Chua said.
- like your dead man angpow in Hulu Selangor
that blow the national budget or diverted funds
from pr-determined use?
- BN is not short sighted, why the operating
expenditure of BN keep balooning while private
investment kept being propped up by public
expenditure?
- petronas revenue is the nation hence the
people's wealth, what is BN administration
keeping for? Not even have the guts to disclose
in Parliament
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“We also gearing up to turn Malaysia into a high-
income country.” he said.
- BN already turn some malaysins into high
income people, like Khir Toyol, Zakaria, Halim
Saad, Tajuddin Ramli, Khairy Jamaluddin and who
else?
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15樓
Why there is no such thing like purchase 10
stamp RM 0.50 free 2 pieces stamp ?
This is because someone say being responsible
administration should not giving out revenues to
delight the public.
Pos Malaysia Bhd suffered RM546mil in losses .
Due to giving free stamp ? No-lah investment
Khazanah’s recent announcement on the strategic
sale of Pos Malaysia ( RM800mil was taken
out of the company’s reserve ) . Should Penang
using 50% of surplus for welfare ? Sometimes
people prefer to keep it for sunny day , 10
years later other guy use it as honeymoon .
We hope Penang always PR . But somestime being
human , don't forecast until like God .
Wawasan 2020 is example . I think M'sia 2020
still worse than Hong Kong 2010 .